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Gabe Brocklebank
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21. aprill kell 11:49 PM 
Is there a reason for homosexuality being wrong outside of what the Bible says?
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André Piaf
I'm here for the tea.
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Tammy Clarke Pelletier
What does the Bible say exactly?
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Ramses Sarhan
Absolutely not
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Velu Tel'Raen
Honestly, I don't think its really wrong in the bible cuz Jesus 'abrogated' the old testament...which is the same argument a lot of people use for why shellfish and clothes of 'mixed cotton and linen' described as sin in deutoronomy isn't a sin.
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Nancy Dills
Moderaator
Velu Tel'Raen
 - That only works for Christians.
Anthony Larson
Well it’s illogical as far as reproduction goes.
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Calvin Smith
Anthony Larson
 i dont think anybody having homosexual intercourse is expecting to get pregnant... lol
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Anthony Larson
Calvin Smith
 I would hope not for their sake. Just a waste of time
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Matthew D Prosser
Anthony Larson
 reproduction is technically illogical. There is no 'need' to reproduce.
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Anthony Larson
Matthew D Prosser
 that makes no sense
Anthony Larson
Matthew D Prosser
 we are built to reproduce. Our drives are mainly driven by reproduction. How is reproduction illogical?
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Matthew D Prosser
Anthony Larson
 we weren't built for anything. It just so happens that the organisms that enjoyed reproducing, reproduced more than the others. There is no need to reproduce, just a want.
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Anthony Larson
Matthew D Prosser
 I disagree. But neither of us have definitive proof that cannot be argued against by any other explanation. Either way, it is logical given that it serves a purpose other than merely pleasure
Matthew D Prosser
Anthony Larson
 its only logical within context. Within a universe that has no purpose. It is not technically logical. It is just a thing that happens.
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Anthony Larson
Matthew D Prosser
 well that view is based on your belief of a universe having no purpose. But even then, reproduction still serves a purpose even if a universe didn’t will for it.
Matthew D Prosser
Anthony Larson
 yes. But that is context. If you want to have children, it would be logical to reproduce. If you don't want children it would be illogical to reproduce. Which happens all the time.
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Anthony Larson
Matthew D Prosser
 either way it is still illogical as far as reproduction goes
Matthew D Prosser
Anthony Larson
 yes. A homosexual act would be illogical if you were trying to reproduce.
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Anthony Larson
Matthew D Prosser
 thank you for agreeing with my point.
Matthew D Prosser
Anthony Larson
 thats fine. I didn't disagree with your point. I was just adding to it.
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Mitch Szymel
Anthony Larson
 - I can agree in the sense that it branches off from heterosexuality, but let me ask you this: is there no evolutionary benefit to homosexuality/homosexual relationship?
Jolene Ulrich Garrettson
Anthony Larson
 I think the point is, evolutionary speaking, animals that reproduce sexually are driven to do it because it feels good, not because they consciously want to have babies. And a percentage of over 500 species have been observed to exhibit …
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Sai Jai
Anthony Larson
 because everyone reproduces eh? There's an argument to be had for over-reproduction. Plenty of children that aren't being cared for ...
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Sai Jai
Anthony Larson
 we're not "built" to reproduce it's merely a side effect. Few parents I know actually planned to be parents. . . so there's that reality.
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Justin McGovney
Anthony
, is it illogical for infertile or sterile people to have sex? They can’t have children so by your logic, it’s illogical for them to have sex.
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Anthony Larson
Sai Jai
 I don’t believe in over reproduction for humans. And reproduction is promoted by sexual urges. So even unintentionally having children means it still fulfills its purpose
Anthony Larson
Justin McGovney
 yes for having children it’s illogical for those people. For pleasure then it’s logical.
Anthony Larson
Mitch Szymel
 I don’t believe there is.
Anthony Larson
Jolene Ulrich Garrettson
 actually I think only humans and dolphins have sex for pleasure. I might be wrong. Correct me if I am please. But if I’m right, then it means having homosexual sex is an illogical move to have babies.
Mitch Szymel
Anthony Larson
 - so just to be clear - according to your understanding, there are absolutely no evolutionary benefits to same-sex coupling. Is this correct?
Anthony Larson
Mitch Szymel
 I do not believe there are.
Mitch Szymel
Anthony Larson
 - understood. And would you be open to changing your mind at all on that or are you pretty dead set in thinking that?
Jolene Ulrich Garrettson
Anthony Larson
 I mean I guess they have other reasons like establishing dominance. But I doubt they are consciously aware they are making babies when they do it.
Mitch Szymel
Anthony Larson
 - Fantastic, I’m glad to hear that. Hopefully we can have a fruitful dialogue. I would consider not being able to have children is an evolutionary benefit in its own right. By not having children, those individuals aren’t contributing t…
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Anthony Larson
Mitch Szymel
 I'm want to bring up another set of sexual practices that people get disgusted to get compared to, BUT, your logic can be used in their favor as well. What makes one good and the other not?
Mitch Szymel
Anthony Larson
 - we’re not talking about morality at the moment, just evolutionary benefit. The same reasoning can be applied to someone who just wants to be celibate as well.
Mitch Szymel
Anthony Larson
 - so would you agree then that this could be an evolutionary benefit of homosexuality and same-sex coupling?
Anthony Larson
Mitch Szymel
 Hmm. I just want to go over what you said and want to make sure that you understand what I mean by your logic being used to defend sexual deviations in the same way:
"By not having children, those individuals aren’t contributing to extra resources that would have to be used which puts stress on the population; this leaves them open to help the population in other ways. The first example that comes to mind is the adoption of otherwise unwanted offspring, as has been documented in some primate species if I’m remembering correctly."
I know you are referring to homosexuals. You also mentioned that this could apply to celibates. But it could also apply to anyone whose sexual desires are aimed at those they cannot have children with such as animals, children, the elderly (in some cases), the dead, inanimate objects, and whatever else I may have forgotten. Do you agree that your argument can be used to support all those sexual practices as well?
Also, evolution is not some deity or animal that tries to find balance or which knows the difference between good and bad. Evolution is simply a process of change across a species. There's no entity saying, "Wow, there's too many people, let's make some homosexuals or some necrophiliacs!" Just want to make sure we agree on that. There's no end goal for evolution.
Mitch Szymel
Anthony Larson
 - once again, that doesn’t matter at this point. My only question was to evolutionary benefit of homosexuality and same-sex coupling. Anything outside that scope is irrelevant at this point in time. You claimed there are absolutely no e…
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Anthony Larson
Mitch Szymel
 I don’t see the benefit. Evolution tends to throw as much as it can to the wall and whatever sticks is what sticks. Whatever doesn’t, goes away. There is no reason to believe that benefiting an individual or group of individuals would cause for genetics to randomly pop in like a plot twist to save the day for said individual or individuals or to make their lives “easier”. So from an evolutionary perspective, I say no. From a situational perspective at the individual level, sure it helps of Cousin Larry doesn’t have kids and is willing to help around the house.
Mitch Szymel
Anthony Larson
 - I can at least somewhat agree with your second and third sentences - and you seemed to have made my point for me with it. Homosexuality has been around for time immemorial, so why? The “phenomena” has not died out, so the question is …
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Mitch Szymel
Anthony Larson
 - and let’s just dissect what you’re saying real quick... “there’s no reason to believe that benefitting an individual or group of individuals would cause for genetics (to change).” But hang on...isn’t that literally all evolution is?
Anthony Larson
Mitch Szymel
 I'm using the save the day analogy as a way of demonstrating why homosexuality being an evolutionary benefit would require an agent acting on behalf of evolution (a deity maybe?).
I do want to address another thing you are bringing up - how it's a "benefit". In science (social and biological), do they consider inheritances or random mutations which result in behaviors/practices that reduce reproduction and likely even survival (via disease, social stigmatization, etc.) as evolutionarily beneficial?
Perhaps, if evolution were to play a role, it could be considered a trait that randomly appears like, I don't know, some mental diseases that may not be entirely harmful but not helpful either? In other words, why are we thinking it must be a benefit and not an illness or at best just a random mutation like being born with one less limb or something? Or maybe like blindness? What makes homosexuality very tricky is that if it is indeed exclusively or primarily biological, then it implies it is a negative mutation given that it reduces the individual's ability to reproduce and puts them in a social disadvantage. What do you think?
Anthony Larson
Mitch Szymel
 By the way, I bring up the illness comparison up because that would explain why the frequency did not decrease and why we might find it in other animals. And note that it is only a comparison. I am not explicitly calling it an illness and don't have any real negative views about someone else's sexuality. I'm merely speculating given the available evidence.
Nancy Dills
Moderaator
Sai Jai
 - I pity their children. I was wanted and planned for, and my arrival anticipated with joy. So was my husband.
And absolutely so was our son. And I think that knowing he was wished for long before he was born helped give him the confidence he needed to grow into the remarkably capable and compassionate man that he's become.
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Mitch Szymel
Anthony Larson
 - right, as I said, your “save the day” analogy implies evolution as an agent. Which it doesn’t seem to be the case, as you yourself had already stated.
We seem to keep getting away from the original point: are the examples I gave evol…
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Anthony Larson
The random appearance of this trait doesn't seem to have a positive impact on the species as a whole.
Anthony Larson
Further, when given the context of evolution, it is the trait of an individual that is favorable to increased fitness which gets passed on. However, being unable to pass on homosexuality to the next generation (without having straight relations which in turn would nullify your argument), implies that evolution would have some kind of intentional desire to keep pushing it - which we agree isn't the case. As you referred to the non-declining frequency, this would instead imply that an illness or non-beneficial trait appears in the species every so often like any other random occurrence like dwarfism, acromegaly, PKU and so on. In other words, there is no evolutionary benefit to being gay. And it clearly does more harm than good in terms of the individual's fitness. (maybe not in 21st century England or USA, but that's a speck of time in history)
Sai Jai
Anthony Larson
 I think what you're trying to say is human beings may want children -to procreate- which is NOT BASED AROUND ORIENTATION. Even hetero- couples may need to seek options for childbirth. Please stop being so closed minded and ignorant! shee…
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Andrew Sandilands
Anthony Larson
 there is clear evidence that genetic inheritance plays a part in a persons sexual identity. This would suggest that there is benefit to having a “gay gene”. There are several theories. Perhaps it benefits a family to have a gay uncle or aunt. Perhaps the “gene” confers other benefits.
The difficulty when discussing this is that we perceive homosexuality as 21st century European people. How differently we would see it if we were Pre-Colombian native Americans, or ancient Greeks etc etc. Our society has defined what a homosexual is. Sexuality is believed to be on a sliding scale. Perhaps in pre-historic times same sex attraction was freely expressed by the majority of people - possibly as a way of cementing social groups, as is seen In bonobos. We will probably never know.
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Dario Bezzina
We weren’t built for being on FB or watching TV, but here we are.
Not everything we do is for reproductive purposes.
Why apply that thinking to sexuality and love?
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Anthony Larson
Andrew Sandilands
 the leaps you make are not justified. Your own argument could therefore be used to say something like schizophrenia is beneficial since it runs in the family. Inheritance is not always good, and genetic is not always inherited. And evolution doesn’t seek out to provide babysitters for a random group of nomads every so often. It might be a side effect (I don’t know any gay babysitters despite knowing a ton of gay people, so it’s a very unreliable side effect, one that wouldn’t promote anyone’s fitness on a regular basis).
But I do notice that this topic has become way too personal for many and I just want to restate what I initially said: it’s illogical for procreation. That’s my point.
Anthony Larson
Dario
 we were built to have children. You can use the means of having children however you wish, but the natural configuration seems to serve the purpose of reproduction first and foremost. What’s so vague about that?
Andrew Sandilands
Anthony Larson
 it’s true that there are genetic traits that persist that are patently not a good thing for the person who expresses them. I can’t speak for schizophrenia. I know very little about these genetic “disorders”, and, of course, it is true that they could persist in the genetic code purely by chance, but over the long term you would expect traits that reduce the production of offspring to fade away. However, my point was that sometimes, as in Sickle Cell Anaemia, an apparently harmful mutation may have have unexpected side effects. Similarly, perhaps the segment of genetic material that confers a predisposition to same sex attraction also confers some other benefit. We don’t know yet, it’s obviously not as straightforward as some other traits.
Vho-Mmbwa Mutangwa Maliga
Naturally homosexuality is gravely untoward.
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Anissa Keyes
Vho-Mmbwa Mutangwa Maliga
 No, you just personally find it icky.
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Nancy Dills
Moderaator
Vho-Mmbwa Mutangwa Maliga
 - Sounds like a personal problem of yours to me.
I am completely heterosexual and I don't find it 'untoward'. It's just not my thing, is all.
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Joseph N Cappitelli II
Vho-Mmbwa Mutangwa Maliga
 It's a shame that you've been taught lies about people in order to make you make you hate them. It's worse that you believe the lies and spread them. You may want to thoroughly rethink your position.
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Ohiku Adisa
Its a perversion.
Its a sickness.
Its unnatural.
Its sinful
Its spreading corruption upon the earth.
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Darlean Murphy
Ohiku Adisa
 1. No. 2. Nope. 3. Found in every animal species on earth. 4. There's no such thing as sin. 5. How is it corrupt to be with someone you love?
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Walter Mitty
Ohiku Adisa
 not a single one of your claims is supported by science or philosophy
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Anthony Larson
Walter Mitty
 perversion and sickness might be. Sinful obviously is. The last one I agree is very arguable.
Mark Banners
Ohiku Adisa
 outside of your bigotry, none. You have to wonder why some people are so obsessed with where other consenting adults decide to put their genitals. Do you secretly fancy a big dick yourself? Is that what this is all about?
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Ohiku Adisa
Darlean Murphy
 its rebellion to cross the limit allowed by God.
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Ohiku Adisa
Walter Mitty
 science or philosophy does not have authority over the soul of any person.
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Ohiku Adisa
Mark Banners
 when God created us He did not let us lose like animals. Even animals are guided by instincts what guide man?
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Anders Kargo Schmidt
Ohiku Adisa
 Perversion is when a man is having sex with a child for example 9 year old Aisha and I would argue having 4 or even 9 wives is sick. It's not unnatural in fact it's very common. Why is it sinful and why is it spreading corruption?
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Anders Kargo Schmidt
Anthony Larson
 Why is is perversion and sickness? And why is it obviously sinful?
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Anthony Larson
Anders Kargo Schmidt
 perversion is based on culture or social standards. In some societies it may be considered perverse behavior. Further, it was once in the west even considered an illness/sickness and I’m sure there are still doctors in the world who would consider it as such. And obviously sinful because such behavior goes against religious commandments, which is by definition a sin.
Mark Banners
Firstly, there is no evidence God created us, secondly evidence would suggest that homosexuality is common in the animal kingdom which would suggest it's a naturally occurring thing. People don't choose their sexuality, they are born that way, again su…
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Darlean Murphy
Ohiku Adisa
 there is no limit. There is no evidence that your god exists
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Ohiku Adisa
Mark Banners
 may God save us from ourselves the traps and whispering of Satan.
God created Adam and Eve. Humanity is the offsprings of Adam and Eve. To live according to God's command is wisdom. To rebel against God's command is Devilish. Devil is first to rebel and refuse to repent.
We all shall give account. Death will come if you are good or bad.The use of our FREEWILL has consequence to be paid in the Hereafter.
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Anders Kargo Schmidt
Anthony Larson
 OK but that does not make it right. We live in 2021 and we should be past this outdated childish thinking
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Darlean Murphy
Ohiku Adisa
 actually your god created Adam and his clone that would have also have been a man
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Mark Banners
Ohiku Adisa
 there is no Satan. There was no Adam and Eve. If you want to base your whole understanding of the universe on a book written by bronze age tribes in the middle east, bully for you but the rest of us don't. Religion reflects a primitive and childish stage in human development. We need to grow up as a species.
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Nancy Dills
Moderaator
Rule 5. No hate speech. We're using the Facebook definition, which is https://www.facebook.com/communitystandards/hate_speech
NB: DO NOT comment upon moderator action in this thread: use the 'contact us' feature on the Religion Discussion Admins page.
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Nancy Dills
Moderaator
Ohiku Adisa
 - Don't try any more preaching on here, please.
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Nancy Dills
Moderaator
Mark Banners
 - I understand you're disgusted - so am I - but your own comment speculating on what another poster might fancy is verging on a personal attack (Rule 4 violation)
I am not logging that remark as a violation only because you are very new here. PLEASE read our rules so you can avoid violating them, thanks!
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Mark Banners
Nancy Dills
 thank you Nancy. I'll try and keep my comments non personal. Just sometimes the bigotry masquerading as piety rather annoys me.
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Ohiku Adisa
Nancy Dills
 am smiling in Greek.I dare you.
If you call it preaching so be it.To me,is explaining where my faith stands and why I followed..." Its the eyes of a child that fears a painted devil."- William Shakespeare.
Ohiku Adisa
Nancy Dills
 you err. " hate speech "?
My mind is rent free of such. Why should I ruin my few good deeds via hate?
Erin Steacy
Ohiku Adisa
 Why all the hate speech? What are you so afraid of?
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Dario Bezzina
No offence but you’re an idiot!
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Alex Favros
Ohiku Adisa
 you are one evil hateful ignorant individual with no education and no knowledge of reality. Go back to your cave where you belong!!!
Alex Favros
Ohiku Adisa
 you are the epitomy of hate!!!!
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Joseph N Cappitelli II
Ohiku Adisa
 You are zero for five. It's a shame that you've been taught lies about people in order to make you make you hate them. It's worse that you believe the lies and spread them. You may want to thoroughly rethink your position.
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Ohiku Adisa
Erin Steacy
 Ohiku Adisa is never afraid.
You see,its forbidden in Islam to HATE a person.when you hate a person, you burn out your good deeds. So why should I burn my few good deeds? Its self love.
When a person err,you do NOT hate the person.You either correct or dislike the extent of such error.All human beings are same in God's eye. The best is who fear God most and only God Knows such a person. Telling Ohiku Adisa that his post amounts to " hate speech " is a slap on my face.
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Erin Steacy
Ohiku Adisa
 clearly you are since you feel the need to LIE to justify your ideas.
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Ohiku Adisa
Erin Steacy.
Dario Bezzine.
Alex Favros.
Joseph N Cappitelli II
Speech mirror the content of the mind.
Our world of today is full of human beings with shapes only.
Ohiku Adisa's prayers is to worship God alone and never offends any human being. I however forgives all those who offends me.
I have seen educated human beings that is ignorant and foolish in believe.
Thank you for airing the content of your mind.
Dario Bezzina
In that case you’ve proved our point through your bigoted views.
Nancy Dills
Moderaator
Ohiku Adisa - IF you are explaining how your religion sees things, in English you say 'The religious view is that....' and then continue.
Absent any such qualification, per the rules of the English language, the writer is claiming what is written to be FACT. Especially when it gets it statements about a Deity, etc
Before we go any further - I AM a theist myself.
This board has rules, and I am here as a moderator to help people follow them. When you DARE ME after I have explained your contravention of a rule - that is disruption. It is the kind of action your religion, I believe, would describe as 'making mischief in the land'.
This board is a very tiny bit of the Internet, the world, etc - but it has its rules.
And if everyone who gets 'dinged' - and yours was just a warning at first! - is going to interrupt a thread to complain, etc, then the people trying to discuss the topic will not be able to.
NOW, if what you want to do is complain - that's fine, just NOT HERE. We have a 'Religion Discussion Admins' page with a 'Contact us' box - you click on that and you can chat with whoever is 'on duty' then.
It should not matter who answers which comment - because we work as a team and try to be very consistent. If you can't accept that we ALSO try to be impartial, I don't know how to advise you.
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Nancy Dills
Moderaator
Rule 4. Insults, personal attacks, suggestions or implying a person has mental health issues will be not tolerated. You can criticise and attack ideas, religions, Gods and historical figures, but not members of this group.
I am truly sorry to have to log this violation, as you have a year plus record of contributions with no violations at all.
But 'No offense, but you're an idiot' is a clear violation of Rule 4.
This IS just a warning, and shouldn't affect your ability to post.
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Nancy Dills
Moderaator
Alex Favros
 - Same thing I said to Dario above:
Rule 4. Insults, personal attacks, suggestions or implying a person has mental health issues will be not tolerated. You can criticise and attack ideas, religions, Gods and historical figures, but not members of this group.
I am truly sorry to have to log this violation, as you have a year plus record of contributions with no violations at all.
This is also just a warning.
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Nancy Dills
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Erin Steacy
 - No, you didn't get a warning.
It's not your problem if you hit one of my 'pet peeve' buttons with the assumption that the other member is 'afraid' and that's why they've been so negative about homosexuality..... I just hate it when someone translates my feelings for me.
And even though he's no pal of mine - it hit the button anyway. NOT your problem
- NOT Moderator
(Didn't want you to be left out here......)
Nancy Dills
Moderaator
Erin Steacy
 - Nothing of any importance : )) Just some of my FEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELINGS there.
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Chukwudi Afrika
It is an unproductive, unreasonable and crazy act and most of all those who practice it have one STDs or the other and are addicted to harmful drugs.
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Darlean Murphy
Chukwudi Afrika
 nothing that you have said is remotely true
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Chukwudi Afrika
Darlean Murphy
 its my truth not yours
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Matthew D Prosser
Chukwudi Afrika
 you have been lied to.
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Anissa Keyes
Chukwudi Afrika
 That is entirely false.
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Trevor Brown
Moderaator
Chukwudi Afrika
 Who told you that crap?
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Darlean Murphy
Chukwudi Afrika
 your truth is not truth at all
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Kristi Lipinski
Chukwudi Afrika
 you need to get your facts straight
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Nancy Dills
Moderaator
Chukwudi Afrika:
Rule 5. No hate speech. We're using the Facebook definition, which is https://www.facebook.com/communitystandards/hate_speech
Please read the rules which you agreed to abide by and have failed to follow.
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Nancy Dills
Moderaator
Chukwudi Afrika
 - There is your OPINION, which was hate speech and slander.
And then there are facts.
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Suzane Watkinson
Administraator
Chukwudi Afrika
 unproductive?
and straight people get stds too, whats your point ?
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Chasse Court
That's a very long winded way of saying "I have been taught false information leading me to 'support and defend a bigoted view"
Chukwudi Afrika
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Nancy Dills
Moderaator
Chasse Court
 - And that comment didn't quit escape violating rule 4.
Note that Rule 4 doesn't include the word 'falsely' about asserting that someone has , ah 'limitations' - so yes, you can run afoul of the rules for being completely factual.
Usually those few who are so extreme in their bigotry that they let it erupt here will not change. But we still give them a second and a third chance to change.
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Chasse Court
Nancy Dills
 Slightly confused and just realized my comment is missing a word it should say "I have been taught" , my comment or Chuks?
Nancy Dills
Moderaator
Chasse Court
 - It's the 'bigoted asshole' part that's problematic....
If it were, say, 'writing comments that sound like they came from.....' I think it would be indirect enough.
Walter Mitty
Not a single one
In the contrary
Modern science tells us that it is a perfectly natural and unproblematic variety of sexuality of humans and animals
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Reggie Cameron
Walter Mitty
 no, it doesn't. Obviously there's a reason why there's 2 genders, because scientifically a man can't reproduce with another man. We need to reproduce to keep the species going, so therefore obviously homosexuality is problematic in that se…
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Steve Jones
Reggie Cameron
 We're not talking about sunday school science, this is adult science.
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Reggie Cameron
Steve Jones
 I'm talking biological science.
Can two men reproduce? Can two women?…
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Steve Jones
Reggie Cameron
 So a woman marrying an infertile man is problematic?
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Walter Mitty
I have dug deep into this topic, I can recommend you some literature
What do 2 genders have to do with the fact that roughly 10% of all humans prefer the same sex? I don't get that argument…
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Reggie Cameron
Steve Jones
 nope, because obviously there's plenty of men who aren't.
What's problematic is suggesting that despite one of our basic instincts, scientifically proven, is to fuck and reproduce, that this guy is saying "well science says ..." To justify…
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Steve Jones
Reggie Cameron
 You think people only have sex to reproduce? What fucking century are you stuck in?
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Walter Mitty
Reggie Cameron
 don't get me wrong
I myself am as straight as can be
But I don't like it that so many people have opinions that are in no ways supported by human sciences
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Al Celmer
Reggie Cameron
 Homosexuality has always existed. Why are we suffering from overpopulation rather than dying out?
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Walter Mitty
Reggie Cameron
 life is much more than reproduction!
Did you hear that one of the biggest global problems of our time is that we humans reproduce too much!?
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Joe Kania
I have no qualms with homosexuality on a personal, moral level, but I don't see how "science" could ever "say" anything about what is good or bad,
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Reggie Cameron
Walter Mitty
 literally there's nothing more important than reproduction. I'm done with this.
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Reggie Cameron
Steve Jones
 if you enjoy getting dicked, go for it 👍
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Steve Jones
Reggie Cameron
 Go on then run off to your YouPorn account and watch them reproducing.....LOL
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Reggie Cameron
Steve Jones
 I'm not running. I'm just not entertaining a silly conversation like "science says homosexuality isn't problematic" just so some people can justify their lifestyle choices.
If you don't understand why heterosexuality is needed, I'm not going to sit here and try to educate you.
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Steve Jones
Reggie Cameron
 Who said heterosexuality wasn't needed?
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Mitch Szymel
Reggie Cameron
 - hello! Ik someone asked something similar, but what if a couple is infertile? Both individuals. Or what if they just don’t want to procreate? Or elderly people that want to marry, but are past reproductive age? Is there something against those people being in relationships? In your understanding, obviously
Or if we’re going with a scientific/biological argument, let me ask you this: is there no evolutionary benefit to homosexuality?
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Reggie Cameron
Steve Jones
 you have, repeatedly.
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Steve Jones
Reggie Cameron
 Show me. Screenshot
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Anissa Keyes
Reggie Cameron
 So your form of 'debate' is to throw out a bunch of nonsense and then run away.
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Anissa Keyes
Reggie Cameron
 There's the nonsense. Waiting for you to run away.
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Reggie Cameron
Anissa Keyes
 it must eat you up inside that I'll always be right, by default.
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Jolene Ulrich Garrettson
Nobody is saying we should all be gay. 🙄
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NATURE.COM
Gay genes boost fertility
Gay genes boost fertility
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Dazza Madge
It's always disturbing to see homophobia in the 21st century
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Jolene Ulrich Garrettson
Reggie Cameron
 Well that explains a lot.
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Reggie Cameron
Dazza Madge
 It's always disturbing when people actually take trolls seriously, in the 21st century
Walter Mitty
Reggie Cameron
 yes exactly
Everyone who has a different opinion than you is a troll
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Reggie Cameron
Walter Mitty
 trolling you people stopped being fun, and the aftermath of the troll reveal is obviously going to be less fun
Tristan Faint
Cant argue with stupid
Chasse Court
I've come to the conclusion and I have seen statements from others as well to this same effect that people on the internet claim to be "trolling" others when they are losing face in an conversation and do it as a face saving measure to end debate witho…
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Dazza Madge
I never actually said I was referring to you.
Erin Steacy
Reggie Cameron
 For someone so clueless, you use "obviously" a lot.
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Reggie Cameron
Chasse Court
 or, I never took the debate seriously ... Because it's Facebook
Reggie Cameron
Erin Steacy
 Pipe down peanut gallery.
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Erin Steacy
Reggie Cameron
 translation, you habe nothing intelligent to say. Yes, we know.
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Erin Steacy
Reggie Cameron
 Clearly you aren't old enough to be on facebook. The minimum age is 13. Come back when you grow up.
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Reggie Cameron
Erin Steacy
 It's Facebook .. none of this is serious and none of it matters.
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Erin Steacy
Reggie Cameron
 So you admit to trolling. Got it.
Reggie Cameron
Erin Steacy
 "so you admit to it troll"
Kinda like how I admitted to being a troll posts and hours ago
Daniel Van Koughnett
Administraator
Reggie Cameron
 Reggie Cameron Rule 6. Trolling (posting solely with intent to upset or offend others) is not allowed. Excessive trolling in comments is not allowed.
Daniel Van Koughnett
Administraator
Reggie Cameron
 Reggie Cameron Rule 4. Insults, personal attacks, suggestions or implying a person has mental health issues will be not tolerated. You can criticise and attack ideas, religions, Gods and historical figures, but not members of this group.…
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Nancy Dills
Moderaator
Reggie Cameron
 - It seems to me that YOU are the 'peanut gallery' here.
Skye Woods
Because you cannot fulfill the 1st commandment from God.
"And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and ove…
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Dazza Madge
You may have missed the bit about "outside of what the Bible says"
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Anders Kargo Schmidt
Skye Woods
 The same God that instructed his people to rape wives and daughters, babies to be killed and mix race couple to be killed?
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William Duke
Anders Kargo Schmidt
 right? The same god that's is obsessed with watching two men having sex. The same God who in the form of Jesus, got nailed and took longinus rod? Overall seems like the God of the Bible on top of being one of the most vile characte…
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Dario Bezzina
I guess that you don’t wear mixed fabrics or eat shrimp right?
Skye Woods
Dario Bezzina
 no i don't live the law of moses. Which is what u r quoting from.
Skye Woods
Look at all u guys trying to change the subject when i shut u up. Was not the question about gays? Did i not answer it?
Stephen Brown
Just homophobic bullshit
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Mpama Okenwa
It goes against nature.
If nature had wanted it,it would have given that guy penis and pussy and for the ladies pussy and penis.So since it is man for penis and woman for pussy that's how we roll.like poles repel while unlike poles attract.
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Walter Mitty
Mpama Okenwa
 I recommend to just read one single scientific paper about this topic
That would prevent you from writing comments like this one
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Mpama Okenwa
Walter Mitty
 Do you need scientific paper to know that when you put your hand on a burning fire you are gonna get hurt?
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Walter Mitty
Mpama Okenwa
 are you kidding?
have you ever heard that homosexuality hurts?
Trevor Brown
Moderaator
Mpama Okenwa
 Homosexuality occurs throughout nature, proving it IS according to nature.
Which fucked-up religion tells you something different?
Matthew D Prosser
Mpama Okenwa
 I don't think you understand how nature works.
Dazza Madge
How can something that occurs in nature go against nature?
Seth Mishler
Mpama Okenwa
 actually lots of animals in nature have same sex coupling. In fact, no other animal has ever been shown to be bothered by other animals having gay sex and/or relationships. Homosexuality is part of nature, homophobia is what goes against …
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Mpama Okenwa
Trevor Brown
 I don't talk religion.
Mpama Okenwa
Maybe until you get impregnanted through anal sex you ain't gonna convince me.Besides from Africa where I come from homosexuality is against nature and you can't convince me against that.
B Belinda Juarez Morris
Sorry, nature is the same in africa as everywhere else 😉.
Henry Leirvoll
"It goes against nature."…
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Trevor Brown
Moderaator
Mpama Okenwa
 Homosexuality occurs throughout nature, proving it IS according to nature. Epic fail.
Trevor Brown
Moderaator
"you can't convince me against that"
- So your mind is made up, and you don't care about the facts. Got it.
Dario Bezzina
You know what else goes against nature?…
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Dazza Madge
Again, homosexuality happens in nature, so how can it be against nature?
Henry Leirvoll
We can take something even closer to the body. How about long hair on men?
A lot of people think men should not have long hair, but nothing could be MORE natural. The hair grows, and cutting it is unnatural. Cutting it is interfering with the way of n…
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Trevor Brown
Moderaator
Nope, none at all.
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Mitchell Barney
No, nothing wrong with it at all. A lot of Christian churches are even coming around on the idea and accepting homosexuality.
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Ohiku Adisa
Mitchell Barney
 its still a sin and shall be punished by God.
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Mitchell Barney
Ohiku Adisa
 That's your opinion. I disagree.
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Anissa Keyes
Ohiku Adisa
 A god that has no problem with rape?
Edwin Woodruff Tait
Ohiku Adisa
 , let's be clear: you're talking about homosexual acts, right? Not homosexual orientation itself. Because a lot of people get confused about that.
I'm not necessarily defending the view even that homosexual acts are sinful, but from my pe…
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Ohiku Adisa
Edwin Woodruff Tait
 whatsoever OUTSIDE the life allowed us by God to live is crossing the limit allowed.
Have we as human pass the TEST?
This is not human logic but divine grace that,as humans ,we must obey and never allowed our freewill do rob us of e…
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Ohiku Adisa
Mitchell Barney
 that is beauty of Islam. One is very free as to what is right or what is wrong.
May be an image of Tekst, mis ütleb 'Ohiku Adisa Mitchell Barney that is beauty of Islam. One is very free as to what is right or what is wrong.'
Ohiku Adisa
Dario Bezzina
 smiling in Latin or Chinese?
Dario Bezzina
You’re ridiculous in any language.
Nancy Dills
Moderaator
Ohiku Adisa - NO, you *believe* that it's a sin, etc, etc.
There is a difference between what you or I or anyone may believe and consider sacred/sinful - and some objective fact.…
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Glenn Burgett
I don’t care what a magic book says
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Eduardo J. Berenguer
Even Animals have hermaphrodites, nothing wrong unless you are a Muslim or a catholic.
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Ohiku Adisa
Eduardo J. Berenguer
 God,the Lord of all Creation forbids it.
Catholic? You can say that again.Recorded history is full of gay Pope.
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Anissa Keyes
Ohiku Adisa
 You cannot even demonstrate that your alleged god exists.
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Sai Jai
Ohiku Adisa
 Bible also forbids wearing blended cloths or working on the Sabbath and such but plenty of religious types ignore that. . .
Nancy Dills
Moderaator
Ohiku Adisa - Oh, OK ...like there were never any gay imams or sheikhs.....
Frank Xavier
As wrong as heterosexuality.
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Anthony Larson
Frank Xavier
 what’s wrong with heterosexuality?
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Frank Xavier
Anthony Larson
 Nothing, that’s my point.
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Dave Baker
God invented homosexuality!
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William Duke
Dave Baker
 pretty sure by the biblical standard God is obsessed with watching dudes fuck each other. Then there's Jesus... Hung around a bunch of dudes, didn't have a wife, he got nailed, and definitely took a rod from longinus... I mean... Just callin…
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Dario Bezzina
...and to add to that, god seems to be a violent closet gay.
Like Colonel Fitts in American Beauty 😂
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William Duke
Dario Bezzina
 yeeeessssss exactly!
Dazza Madge
Only for bigots
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Ohiku Adisa
Its said that ,some countries have allowed sex with animals. Its also an act of war against God. Its the height of foolishness to think one can win a war against God.
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Edwin Woodruff Tait
Ohiku Adisa
 why do you think that?
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Anissa Keyes
Ohiku Adisa
 Animals cannot meaningfully consent to sex with humans.
People do not chose their orientations. If someone is gay, they did not choose that. Meaning your god meant for them to be that way. What an evil, spiteful go then to claim that bein…
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Mwakigali Kape Bandegenie
No one created to be gay, it's socially constructed
Ohiku Adisa
God does not made one a gay and will punish that person .God is never UNJUST.
Man is created with FREEWILL to either obey or rebel. And via the agency of human prophets and Divine Scriptures came what we can do and what we should NOT do.Its an invented…
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William Duke
Yeah but... There's almost certainly no god so 🤷
Ohiku Adisa
William Duke
 well,God is NOT same as " god".
As a believer,my faith teaches me that,God is Ever-Living, the First,the Last and Knower of all things.
William Duke
Ohiku Adisa
 sorry, faith based positions are demonstrably moronic to hold. I don't respect your god (notice the tiny "G" on purpose there.) nor your beliefs, nor your faith. Provide absolute empirical proof of your god existing in reality, or deal with…
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Anissa Keyes
Mwakigali Kape Bandegenie
 People don't choose their orientation. We are attracted to who we are attracted to, and sometimes those are people of the same sex.
Anissa Keyes
Ohiku Adisa
 People do not choose who they feel attracted to. You don't, and neither does anyone else. We do choose our actions so no, those two things are not the same. Also, being gay hurts no one while robbery causes demonstrable harm.
Nancy Dills
Moderaator
Ohiku Adisa - So now you're reduced to repeating gossip?
Please explain how that fits in with all the 'virtue-signalling' you've been doing?…
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Erin Steacy
Gods! These bigoted theists are as exhausting as they are unimaginative.
Anabela Queiros
No reason at all. People who wrote the Bible were homophobic which is a mental disturb, Homophobia "has been defined as contempt, prejudice, aversion, hatred or antipathy, may be based on irrational fear and ignorance, and is often related to religiou…
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Anabela Queiros
 but the Bible is a corrupt divine scripture of Guidance. Human beings have always rebel against what is BEST for its soul.
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Andrew Sandilands
Anabela Queiros
 I think many of the laws written into the bible were intended to distance Jews from everyone else. At the time homosexual behaviour was common in other societies.
Aidan James Kiely
No, and even the Bible is largely misunderstood on this. It’s still an argument I have with fellow Christians.
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Mitch Szymel
Aidan James Kiely
 - hello! I’d love to hear your argument and point of view on this! Please message me if you’re interested! Thanks in advance ✌🏼
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Nancy Dills
Moderaator
Mitch Szymel
 - Moderator here. We prefer that discussion should take place ON the board here.
So, if you want to, feel free to quote Aidan's post as part of an OP and invite others to discuss it. …
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Seth Mishler
Because sheep herding desert nomads didn’t have much to work with in the area of sanitation, so it was a bad time to get sh*t on your d*ck. My guess is they figured out that sodomy lead to infections and thought it was divine retribution.
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Anders Kargo Schmidt
Just saw a post where some theists complained about us atheists and the lack of intelligent discussion but pls look at the comments from theists in this post, it makes me sick. You can take your petty childish vindictive homophobic God and stick him up…
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Nancy Dills
Moderaator
Anders Kargo Schmidt
 - No but since I am a theist and arguing AGAINST the homophobic bigotry and claiming being homosexual is a 'lifestyle choice' - I would have suggested that you add 'SOME' before 'theists'...... and I think
Erin Steacy
 and some othe…
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Anders Kargo Schmidt
Nancy Dills
 I did write 'some'... I actually don't care too much about what people think about me and if they think I m theists-hating bigot, then so be it. I also have criticised atheists that are homophobic, racist etc. I m very pleased you have a 'm…
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BrotherDude Porter
The taste? Neigh, cunt be
Jose Hernandez
I mean who cares about the whereabouts of your sexual organs where being?
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Ibtissem Teyeb
Yes ! When they adopt a child, they ruin his life. No matter what you say, who is daddy 1 daddy 2 ? Mum 1 ? Mum 2 ? Eurk !
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Matthew D Prosser
Ibtissem Teyeb
 how do they ruin the child's life?
May Rod
Ibtissem Teyeb
 how is that a problem? I'm sure children know who their parents are if they have communication 🤷🏼‍♀️
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Kristi Lipinski
Ibtissem Teyeb
 there are many children out there with gay parents that are loved far more by those parents than some with straight parents
Nancy Dills
Moderaator
Ibtissem Teyeb
 - My personal experience says that you're wrong and have no idea what you're talking about.
I have a gay relative who was married to the same same-sex person for over 20 years. I don't like either of them, but they were awesome as pare…
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Trevor Brown
Moderaator
Ibtissem Teyeb
 On average, families with two same-sex parents turn out a bit BETTER than families with opposite sex parents. Look it up.
Nancy Dills
Moderaator
Trevor Brown
 I'm sure it's not because 'gays are better parents' - but because the gays who have children usually adopted them or otherwise deliberately set out to become parents.
Trevor Brown
Moderaator
The point is, stop worrying that same-sex parents aren't as good enough as opposite-sex parents. They are.
GIF may contain Bunnies, What, Confused ja Meh
Jot Russell
Yeah, because it doesn't empower the religious force with more offspring
Epeli Hau'ofa
Homosexuality is found throughout the animal kingdom.
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Sabrina Finsel
Nope. There is no logical reason for homosexuality to be villainized the way it is.
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Aberagi Scope Dee
For me , I don't even believe in the bible but I find homosexuality disgusting.
I can't reconcile the fact that a full fledged man will attract a full fledged man sexually, I don't just get it. Where is the attraction?
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Ádám Szőllősy
That's probably because you're not gay. I can't reconcile how grown men can be excited about watching others kicking around a ball. Yet I have the common sense to realize that just because I don't like something doesn't mean others can't like it.
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Matthew D Prosser
Aberagi Scope Dee
 you don't have to 'get it'. I don't understand what you see in the opposite sex. If you asked me to do what you do in the bedroom, I would find it gross too. But I accept the fact that you are heterosexual. And know that there's nothi…
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Jolene Ulrich Garrettson
Aberagi Scope Dee
 Each to their own. I think two guys together are 🔥
Aberagi Scope Dee
Matthew D Prosser
Matthew D Prosser
 wow 😲😲😲, what a wonderful world we lived in, ideas involve and life changes.
I now understand that many abnormals will be considered normal in a long run.
Ádám Szőllősy
Aberagi Scope Dee
 that wonderful world allows you to choose your seat now on the bus in the US despite of being black. Don't you love progress?
Aberagi Scope Dee
Ádám Szőllősy
 I am confused pls what do you mean choosing a seat in the usa bus despite being back?
Ádám Szőllősy
Aberagi Scope Dee
 Prior to 1956 the first bus seats were reserved for white people. You could only sit there until a white person came and needed your seat. Because being white was considered "normal". Would you like to be called abnormal if you're not…
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Aberagi Scope Dee
Ádám Szőllősy
 pls for your information you can not detect to me what I deem normal/abnormal.
Ádám Szőllősy
Aberagi Scope Dee
 would you like to be called abnormal?
Aberagi Scope Dee
Ádám Szőllősy
 if I behave in a way that deviate from the normal yes I can be called abnormal being
Ádám Szőllősy
Aberagi Scope Dee
 in the USA, black people are a minority. Are they abnormal?
Aberagi Scope Dee
Ádám Szőllősy
 not really, certainly it's does not sound reasonable comparing minority in race and minority in sexual stance.
I did not abhore it for not having many subscribers to it but for fact it's a deviation from norms taught in my community.
Terry Leatherbury
Aberagi Scope Dee
 homosexuality occurs in the animal kingdom, and is more common in some types of animals. Some bird species actually benefit from the brooding behavior increasing their survivability. Its been observed in mammals, even insects like fru…
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Ádám Szőllősy
Aberagi Scope Dee
 it ia totally comparable. Being born black and born gay are both something you don't choose. Also, people don't "subscribe" to it. You don't pick Your sexuality.
Norm is a matter of majority. If you're a minority, you're abnormal acc…
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Aberagi Scope Dee
Terry Leatherbury
Terry Leatherbury
 I know what pains you is that I call homosexuality abnormal but , as you say the world does not centered on my view point thankfully. Certainly you should not expect everybody in the whole corners of the earth to bel…
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Terry Leatherbury
Aberagi Scope Dee
 i dont expect everyone to agree on everything. You can be disgusted by whatever, i dont care. But it has nothing to do with you what other people do so why do you care? And as i mentioned its natural occurring in nature so no, its de…
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Aberagi Scope Dee
Ádám Szőllősy
Ádám Szőllősy
 you are not correct, stop concluding on my behalf, I never say majority is always right.
There are many popular beliefs with majority followers that I can never subscribe to.
Ádám Szőllősy
Aberagi Scope Dee
 you said the minority is abnormal. That makes you abnormal too.
Terry Leatherbury
Aberagi Scope Dee
 hes is right though. Anything different from the norm is abnormal, so a minority of any kind is abnormal. Abnormal just means not normal.
Ádám Szőllősy
Terry Leatherbury
 it's kinda negative word though and apparently he's not fond of it when he's the one called abnormal.
Terry Leatherbury
Ádám Szőllősy
 yes it does have negative connotations, which are ugly, and makes his assertions mildly offensive. I dont understand why people care how other people live their lives? His way of thinking is hard for me to understand too but i dont go out…
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Terry Leatherbury
Ádám Szőllősy
 you see a lot of this kind of thinking from poorer, rural, and tribal places rife with ignorance.
Terry Leatherbury
Ádám Szőllősy
 which is why I tried to emphasize that it's entirely natural, occurring in nature. He has a 'regional' point of view though that is common in his community as he claims so it's no suprise he cowers to conformity. Think about it though, t…
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S. Naveed
It is simple. eyes to see. Ears to hear
Lips and tongue to speak and taste
Hands to hold,. Legs to walk…
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Shane Gardner
S. Naveed
 Sex is not only used for procreation bro. We are a social species that uses sex for bonding, social status and many other reasons... I've never had sex with the direct intention of procreation.... And as the last guy said. Homosexuality occur…
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Giovanna L. Sforza
Um. ITS NOT ABOUT YOU. So who cares why 2 men would be attracted to one another? It's none of your business. …
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Giovanna L. Sforza
Excuse me. Are you referring to tribal people, rural people or impoverished people as "ignorant"? FU. You're the ignorant one. That was a horribly bigot ignorant remark.
Erin Steacy
Aberagi Scope Dee
 your squick factor doesn't make anothers existance "wrong". Get over yourself.
Nancy Dills
Moderaator
Aberagi Scope Dee
 - LOL, why is it that so many males seem only to be able to notice male homosexuality?
I happen to be completely heterosexual - but I also know that some males don't seem to object to female homosexuality. In fact, some seem to be t…
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Nancy Dills
Moderaator
Aberagi Scope Dee
 - Calling other people 'abnormals' is insulting and degrading.
STOP using that language.…
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Nancy Dills
Moderaator
Terry Leatherbury
 - Would you call someone with an IQ over 150 'abnormal' ? I don't think so.
I know what the word means by etymology - but that's clearly NOT how the other member used it.
Nancy Dills
Moderaator
Aberagi Scope Dee
 - Then maybe it's your community's 'norms' which are really the problem?
Since cultures are not 'divine', they can certainly be erroneous in some ways.…
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Terry Leatherbury
Giovanna L. Sforza
 no it wasnt, everyone is ignorant including me, but statistically impoverished people and people with less means such as rural and tribal populations have less access to information so their amount of ignorance is greater just becaus…
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Terry Leatherbury
Nancy Dills
 yes i know i acknowledged the negative connotations, i was being a little facetious with my reply.
Terry Leatherbury
Giovanna L. Sforza
 tell me will you of populations in Amazonia that have studied advanced sociology and know the statistics for demographic groups and have informed opinions about why certain behaviors exist. There's scarce little through no fault of t…
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Ádám Szőllősy
Interestingly the Bible only forbids it for men. It says next to nothing about lesbians.
Andrew Crawford
The Bible doesn't say it is wrong. You have to learn how to interpret it properly. Not "proof texting" like many do.

Ádám Szőllősy
The bible outright calls it sinful and unnatural and leviticus even dishes out death sentence for it. If you can interpret "kill them" as "don't kill them" you can reinterpret anything you want.
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Shawn Hartgrove
I always thought it was about playing in septic tanks... butt stuff... is dirty and gross... playing in sewer
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Matthew D Prosser
Shawn Hartgrove
 I think you have a warped view on homosexuality
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Jolene Ulrich Garrettson
Shawn Hartgrove
 what does anal sex have to do with same-sex attraction?
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Shawn Hartgrove
Jolene Ulrich Garrettson
 well it mentions two dudes together more than two women. Not my beliefs but what I understand of bible.. homosexuality is mentioned 6 times 4 about dude on dude and 2 about both...
Matthew D Prosser
Shawn Hartgrove
 yeah. But straight people have butts too. Gay people doesn't equal butt sex lol
Jolene Ulrich Garrettson
Shawn Hartgrove
 Some gay men don’t like anal sex, some people who are not gay men do like it.
Shawn Hartgrove
Jolene Ulrich Garrettson
 yes I agrer... Both do butt stuff... it wasn't that is what I think homosexuals do it was more so a thought on how religion views it... I don't care what they do... either straight or not...
Shawn Hartgrove
Matthew D Prosser
 yes they do... it is gross anyway...
Matthew D Prosser
Shawn Hartgrove
 so whats the issue with gay people?
Matthew D Prosser
Shawn Hartgrove
 ok. Just going by the op...
Shawn Hartgrove
Matthew D Prosser
 I have issue with the entire species...
Not any small chunk of the population. The species...
Shawn Hartgrove
Matthew D Prosser
 just observation no attached feelings to the concept...
Erin Steacy
Shawn Hartgrove
 so kink shaming is why you think its wrong. Tsk tsk.
Shawn Hartgrove
Erin Steacy
 no I didn't say it was wrong... I personally think it is gross... if you like that kind of thing then that is all you...
My opinion isn't law...
Erin Steacy
Shawn Hartgrove
 so you are saying you DIDN'T read/understand the OP. I see.
Shawn Hartgrove
Erin Steacy
 lol... wow... can one not express an opinion contrary to their belief... yall taking it way to serious...
Ryan Gion
Shawn
....soooo...the verse should be about anal sex, not homosexuality.
Also what do you mean "yall taking it way too seriously"…
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Erin Steacy
Shawn Hartgrove
 Another one admitting that they are trolling.
Shawn Hartgrove
Erin Steacy
 not trolling. Question was asked i answered as best I could with info I have...
Shawn Hartgrove
If I was trolling I would have continued to let y'all believe whatever assumptions you made...
Erin Steacy
Shawn Hartgrove
 No you didn't. You didn't answer the question at all. Just carried on about what YOU don't like. Not WHY it was wrong.
Erin Steacy
Shawn Hartgrove
 Whatever helps you sleep at night. Your posts tell the tale.
Shawn Hartgrove
Erin Steacy
 beside playing in septic tank, or stretching the exit door. Nah... all personal just like everything in life...
Paul Scanlon
Yet not as bad as eating shrimps, only two "don't be a puff", yet more than half a dozen "don't eat shrimp".
Something fishy about this religion shit 🤑🤑🤑
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IrFan Ihsan ChanNa
Homosexuality exist when there is no heterosexuality at all.
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James Buntin
The term homosexual exists. Accepted language. Is there a problem here?
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May Rod
Only when it's not with a consenting adult. Other than that, no
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Russell Hill
I'm heterosexual but lm not going to shove it down your throat about it.
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Geoff Green
Yeah natural. Out side of is a threat to others. Like disease. We all have a mum and dad involvement in our being. So why is that no longer good enough for some ? Sex is not love. Or rape and a one night stand is. And they are not. Humans are born male…
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Matthew D Prosser
Geoff Green
 it's hard to tell what your objection to homosexuality is in what you said...
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Matthew D Prosser
Geoff Green
 oh wait, after re-reading what you said. I think you are saying homosexuality is a threat, through disease?
What disease can homosexual people get that heterosexual people can't?
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Nancy Dills
Moderaator
Geoff Green
 - NOT a fact: there are people who are 'intersex' physically. And then there are people whose genetic coding is other than 'XX' or 'XY'.
In a 'perfect' world, people would be 'male' or 'female' in body and personality - but the world is …
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Geoff Green
Nancy Dills
 yes it is regardless of birth defects. Sadly they do happen. We all are born via a mum and dad involvement . And are all born male or female.
Jolene Ulrich Garrettson
Geoff Green
 What does that have to do with same-sex attraction (homosexuality)?
Geoff Green
Jolene Ulrich Garrettson
 what all born of a mum and dad involvement ? People wanting to get their rocks off ? What. The human race has a natural. Male and female. You yourself are because of. So political BS aside. Disease comes otherwise. It's a fact.…
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Jolene Ulrich Garrettson
Geoff Green
 That isn’t how disease works at all. You get disease from having unprotected sex regardless if your partner is male or female. The idea that homosexuality “causes” disease is a myth, and a very damaging one.
Geoff Green
Jolene Ulrich Garrettson
 Rubbish. Don't talk rubbish.
Candace Marie
I can’t think of any
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Jake Grogan
No, and "it's gross" or "I don't understand it" isn't a reason either
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Kristi Lipinski
No. I have gay family members and I love them and protect fiercely from bigots
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Kristi Lipinski
 may you be able to " protect" them from the anger of God for their rebellion. And you also, for aiding sins.amin
Kristi Lipinski
Ohiku Adisa
 oh get a clue already. I care about their happiness. You only want to push your ideals or a god you think is there. If there is a god, he would only want his children happy.
William Duke
Ohiku Adisa
 haha you think god is real. 🤣
Ohiku Adisa
Kristi Lipinski
 God,the Lord of all Creation told us that,He love us more than a mother's love of her child.
His Grace upon us is unlimited.
However,He told us NOT to cross some limit and to seek pardon when we sin or err.Its not for God to punish thos…
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Ohiku Adisa
William Duke
 Its beyond my thinking. Its an open truth.
William Duke
Ohiku Adisa
 Yes, God being not real is almost assuredly an open truth. Glad you agree.
Dario Bezzina
Quite a lot seems to be beyond your thinking quite frankly 😒
Kristi Lipinski
Ohiku Adisa
 your Bible also says not to mix fabrics. Get a clue already
Nancy Dills
Moderaator
Ohiku Adisa - IF that's how Deity made a person, then they are NOT!!!!! 'in rebellion'.
When other functioning adults WANT your advice, they will surely ask for it.…
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Naro Yaro Busquets
When you release the sperms into a man's anus, what do you expect the sperms to go and do in there??
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Jen Na Boneiru
Naro Yaro Busquets
 Homosexuality isn't exclusive to males.
Why are you only focusing on male homosexuality?…
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Erin Steacy
Naro Yaro Busquets
 When you release the sperms into a infertile woman's body, what do you expect the sperms to go and do in there??
Mwakigali Kape Bandegenie
Homosexuality is too worse to men, the anus is not created to receive sperms.
Sarah Nicholson
when straight couples have anal (and loads do) what do the sperm do? when the sperm is released into a condom what does it do? when it is released into a woman on birth control what does it do? when it is released into a sock what does it do?
Dario Bezzina
Just because you’ve had ONE bad experience shouldn’t mean you should hate on it
Naro Yaro Busquets
Jen Na Boneiru
 Okay, let all the males have males, let all the females have females, humans go extinct in 100 years..
Y'all gay people happy now?
Naro Yaro Busquets
Erin Steacy
 At least you know it's inside a pussy.. Where it's supposed to be.
Jen Na Boneiru
Naro Yaro Busquets
 That's just unrealistic nonsense.
Naro Yaro Busquets
Jen Na Boneiru
 It's not nonsense, it's a fact
Jen Na Boneiru
Naro Yaro Busquets
 No, it's unrealistic.
Homosexuality is nothing new, and it's unrealistic to think that there's a risk of all of humanity being homosexual.
So, your scenario is simply unrealistic nonsense.…
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Erin Steacy
Naro Yaro Busquets
 so you choose to be vulgar AND deliberately miss the point. Figures.
Harpo Barx
Naro Yaro Busquets
 why does EVERYONE have to be gay just so some people can be gay? WHY DO YOU NEED EVERYONE TO BE GAY? closeted motherfucker
Naro Yaro Busquets
Harpo Barx
 I don't want anyone to be gay
Dario Bezzina
I don’t want anyone to be black. …
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Darlean Murphy
Naro Yaro Busquets
 it isn't up to you if someone is gay or not
Jolene Ulrich Garrettson
Naro Yaro Busquets
 What does anal sex have to do with same-sex attraction?
Margus Meigo
Erin Steacy
 "When you release the sperms into a infertile woman's body, what do you expect the sperms to go and do in there??"
The sexual act happens in many realms and timelines SAME time not just in one point of time , but the important part is tha…
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Margus Meigo
Erin Steacy
 exactly, this is what is expected from people, who lack even kid level understanding of these things,
i am sure when you finished looking Cloud Atlas, or AO or Sense8 you also told "Um....what"
instead: …
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Hugh Trotman
Look homosexuality is a persons choice let’s just let people live in peace
Joey Bones
Yeah it hurts your butt plus ewww
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Gabe Brocklebank
Joey Bones
 Isn’t there a g spot in the anus?
Dario Bezzina
How do you know that?
Barnard Rabenold
It only hurts if you go in too fast. Go in slow and it can feel good for the receiver.…
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Margus Meigo
Barnard Rabenold
 sick , deeply sicks
Margus Meigo
Gabe Brocklebank
 just because some Froidian sickos name it a "g spot" does not make it so,
there is physical boy pressure points that when medical doctors pressure on these the sperm near instant comes for many people, …
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Rapi B Apin
Common sense,how are you going to produce a baby if u cum in the wrong hole?
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Gabe Brocklebank
Rapi B Apin
 How does that make it wrong?
Do you only have sex for reproduction? …
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Rapi B Apin
Gabe Brocklebank
 one of the reason why they are wrong
Gabe Brocklebank
Rapi B Apin
 So the only moral type of sex is vaginal and only if the couple is capable of procreation?
Joseph Stahl
Rapi B Apin
 I suppose masturbation, condoms, oral/anal, and every other form of ejaculation that doesn’t directly result in an infant is evil, as well?
Rapi B Apin
Joseph Stahl
 yes,plus no one attempt to legalize all those things yet,I heard only same sex marriage
Rapi B Apin
Gabe Brocklebank
 Yes , vaginal only,but not necessarily to reproduce. Because we talk about sex here
Adi Zohar Fedorowsky
Rapi B Apin
 so you contradict your self.
Mohlomphehi Mojalefa Kapelwa
Rapi B Apin
 Why vaginal only if the goal isn't to reproduce?
What makes vaginal sex which doesn't result in reproduction right but gay sex wrong?
Rapi B Apin
Adi Zohar Fedorowsky
 nope. My stand is simple..sex is only between man and woman. Simple as that
Adi Zohar Fedorowsky
Rapi B Apin
 well we ask why?
You prefer women. And it is ok but what tell you the right to tell others it is wrong.…
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Rapi B Apin
Mohlomphehi Mojalefa Kapelwa
 There's various reason,some intentionally,some not,.Family planning,one of them.have sex but don't want a baby
Gabe Brocklebank
Rapi B Apin
 So oral and hand sex is also immoral?
Dario Bezzina
I assume you masturbate. …
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Rapi B Apin
Dario Bezzina
 No ,I don't mate. I'm normal
Dario Bezzina
Fuck off, you’re lying!
Rapi B Apin
Dario Bezzina
 hahaha, 🤣🤣🤣 it is wrong to be normal?😜😜😜😜
Margus Meigo
Gabe Brocklebank
 it is not considered SEX if you press in to buttonholes and all that nonsense,
some are so sick they even pressure womans in to that practice …
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Gabe Brocklebank
Margus Meigo
 Why should we appeal to your strict definition of sex?
Margus Meigo
Gabe Brocklebank
 as then You will get full and deeper understanding of what sex is and access much higher realms,
as these things in multy worlds are as like a doors , that you will not even see, if you not know .. and if you make mistakes, you will …
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Destiny Morris
I mean not that I can honestly think of. Love is love in my eyes. 🤷🏼‍♀️
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Iromantu Bestman
Destiny Morris
 its wrong in the sight of God and man
Please try to understand me
William Duke
Iromantu Bestman
 yeah but... There's almost certainly no god except for in your head so... not really any wrongs here.
Destiny Morris
Iromantu Bestman
 he said outside of the Bible though.
Margus Meigo
Destiny Morris
 God is not limited to "inside bible" or as some specially degenerated brains say "inside mind"
We come from GOd is safe to assume not God from us, …
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Suzane Watkinson
Administraator
No reason what so ever.
I have never understood why so many busybodies are interested in what kind of sex lives other folk have.
as long as its between consenting adults, its no one else's business.
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Suzane Watkinson
 it just because you have not invested so great time in to understanding WHY,
but at least You admit, that You DO NOT Understand,
meaning, you lack knowledge and understanding why things are as they are, …
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Margus Meigo
If You lack understanding, how is it bad if someone is peeing in to river where down the streem others use it for kids bath and more after that someone for drinking.. (as i have got my water for years from nature..) but the first one who craps in to w…
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Brian Dean
If that which the Bible says is acceptable is actually what is acceptable... then we are in trouble. He who loves his brother and sister, knows God.
Jay Nemisis
yes. When completely taken out of context
Randy Farren
Nope either you want the poo hole and a stick or you want a warm squishy love pocket made for a penis and a poo hole. Decide, both can come with tits in 2021 also.
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Walter Mitty
Randy Farren
 it is remarkable that many people can only think of one single way of homosexual playing among men
And by the way which is only possible for half of the homosexuals, doesn't apply to lesbians
Randy Farren
I am a Vancouver gay pride participant since 1990. What other comment you got for me about me focusing on sexual organs trying to get a few laughs out of people instead of semi-insults from laze fucks stuck up from all this covid bull?
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Randy Farren
Buddy probably doesn't know real gay pride and the true struggles in the 80s and 90s at all. Gay pride today is a shadow of what it once was. But being gay is much easier today then it was growing up.
So if you really don't know half this shit. Shit …
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Randy Farren
Today it is all "look at meeeeee" it is embarrassing.
Walter Mitty
Randy Farren
 I don't get your point
Sorry
Kings John
It's wrong even without the bible condemning it.
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Walter Mitty
Kings John
 could you please give a single reason?
Rebecca Sirilay
Kings John
 For one, that's the question that the OP is asking.
Two, when you say wrong, do you mean morally? Or what? And why do you see it that way? Does it only apply to homosexuals or all non-heteros?…
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Adi Zohar Fedorowsky
What wrong with that as long as people are consenting adults. You shouldn't care.
Kings John
Walter Mitty
 it's against nature, we're here to reproduce sexually not the other way around. Personally I have nothing against them because they're humans too.
Kings John
Yes I mean morally and secondly it apply to all of em.
Kings John
Adi Zohar Fedorowsky
 Yes as long as they keep it to themselves, I have one in my neighborhood and he or she is like "have you seen me?
Adi Zohar Fedorowsky
Kings John
 no it isn't against nature it is natural and apeares in other animals
And morally it isn't wrong as long those two people vare consenting adults
And. To keep it to themselves why?…
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Kings John
Adi Zohar Fedorowsky
 How am I a hypocrite?
Adi Zohar Fedorowsky
Because you wrote as long as it is female and male it is ok
Even if it just for enjoyment maybe hypocrite is not the right word. But you contradict yourself.
Adi Zohar Fedorowsky
Maybe i was confusing with another person who wrote it
Adi Zohar Fedorowsky
Kings John
 it wasn't you I was confused with another comment sorry.
But either way it isn't against nature. It is natural so you should think why it is bother you.
Kings John
Adi Zohar Fedorowsky
 if it's a good thing as some people try to make us understand, why can't they just get married everywhere like normal people? Why is it prohibited ?
Adi Zohar Fedorowsky
Kings John
 because religon not allowed that in most places.
But why is that?…
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Adi Zohar Fedorowsky
Kings John
 Don't forget sex wasn't allowed outside marriage
And if someone rape a girl. He needed to pay to her father or get married to her
Adi Zohar Fedorowsky
Women was objects basically
Adi Zohar Fedorowsky
Kings John
 Anyway. You said that *besides* religon it is wrong
But we get back to the beginning bible reason.
You have another reason?
Dario Bezzina
Facebook and the internet is also “against nature” and yet here you are 🤔…
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Margus Meigo
Adi Zohar Fedorowsky
 " What wrong with that as long as people are consenting adults"
There is many other things adults do that ware wrong, this is why most prisoners are adults in prison,
Margus Meigo
Dario Bezzina
 facebook and specially internet is NOT against nature, but FOR nature and FOR Humanity, it one of the most human things there has been produced that can help humans to become more human and nature like
Thanks to internet psychedelics c…
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Adi Zohar Fedorowsky
Margus Meigo
 If two people having consensual sex. How is that wrong ?
Explain me don't tell me to do research because i don't find any wrong with that.…
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Nathaniel Yu
None really. It is an orientation. As is homophobia and transphobia.

Margus Meigo
Nathaniel Yu
 its not "Hompphobia" just becuase some illiterate froidian LGBD agenda aliens coined the wrong logic and wrong word for their agenda together,
Not liking, disgusting, keeping values and normality is not a "phobia"
same way as eating poi…
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Margus Meigo
Yes, there is some ones who are literally afraid also for demonic posessions and other evil that comes from it, but that means not that others who just know what is right , that they are "suffering under phobia"
this word meanings will be changed …
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Lou Kilgore
Health reasons for one.
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Dario Bezzina
Who’s health reasons?
Royston Wilding
Yes, unprotected male anal sex was the primary vector for the HIV/AIDS pandemic, along with intravenous heroin addiction.
Sean Kays
Royston Wilding
 oh weird, I thought you could get aids from heterosexual sex as well. I feel
Dumb
Royston Wilding
Sean Kays
 You can, but the probability is much lower.
Sean Kays
Royston Wilding
 oh darn, so Heterosexual sex is immoral too then?
HIV/AIDS Among Gay and Bisexual Men | CDC
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HIV/AIDS Among Gay and Bisexual Men | CDC
HIV/AIDS Among Gay and Bisexual Men | CDC
Royston Wilding
Sean Kays
 If you knowingly have HIV I believe you should inform your partner, before engaging in high-risk sex, however this is no longer a legal requirement, due to lobbying by homosexual lobby groups.
Sean Kays
Royston Wilding
 right, so you can get HIV from both. So are both immoral then? The argument was gay sex is immoral because of health risks. Straight sex also has risks... the same health risk I guess if you’re doing anal. And lesbian sex has the least …
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Dario Bezzina
Exactly, but only slightly less immoral. ☺️
May be an image of 1 isik ja Tekst, mis ütleb 'Sean Kays Royston Wilding oh darn, so Heterosexual sex is immoral too then?'

Margus Meigo
Lou Kilgore
 Also for mental health, as mental health suffers create way with it,
just look the logic and behaviors of these people,
and some even turn bodily and vice changes in to abnormal …
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Margus Meigo
Dario Bezzina
 immoral specially if done with who god did not intended , like thinking about other woman or work or being drunk when having sex etc etc.. these are great mistakes
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Margus Meigo
Adi Zohar Fedorowsky
 i say clearly yes,
if you not know then research why
Adi Zohar Fedorowsky
Margus Meigo
 tell me why
I don't find any reason.
Dave
Bible not 100 percent right. The old testament many of the prophet doing war and killing... Pretty sure that's an ideology and politics, proud and ego.
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Elijah Kuria
Dave
 so u pick and choose what is right and wrong ? Whats the purpose of an apmoghty deity if he is judged by the same moral standard as we .
Nobody can judge Gods actions are wrong all right, anything G0d does is simply Godly , its his will ,if he c…
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Dave
Elijah Kuria
 exactly. We have brain and soul, we know what is right or wrong. Many of the scripture are opposing each other. It was around 2000 years ago... It was edited couple of times.
Your definitions of God is wrong, that's text book. Are you tr…
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Dave
Elijah Kuria
 problem with Christian right now, is they are text book. Is only a book ... edited 2000 years ago, one word changed then it change the meaning. Then why I am believin in Christ then? I will answer it if you like to hear. Not bullshit mirac…
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Elijah Kuria
Dave
 let me ask you , answer honestly , whats the problem in believing in christ , what do you have against it
Elijah Kuria
Dave
 Is there any proof on what u are saying , that the bible was changed, edited?
Dave
Elijah Kuria
 I don't. I believe in him. Only I don't agree on the text book.
Dave
Elijah Kuria
 no I don't. But by judging on the text , I know it was contradicted... So I say, don't be a text book
Elijah Kuria
Dave
 The reason we know right and wrong is not brain and soul , its innate , animals have Brains and souls dave. There is a moral standard beyond us , that most of us call God , science does not set any moral standard , so why would u judge killing as…
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Elijah Kuria
Dave
 There is irrefutable proof of Jesus excistence , not only in the bible dave , even in other historical books
Elijah Kuria
Dave
 so ur problem is not that u are sure Jesus and the bible are factual , its just that u want not to believe ? Right .
Dave
Elijah Kuria
 funny your name is elijah. I like to make example from this prophet elijah. He is the one that butchered all baal priest during a fire demonstrations... Do you think God like that? It is contradicted to Jesus theaching.
Elijah Kuria
Dave
 am not pushing you to do anything , am just challenging ur belief system to see whether u are sure of what u believe , u believe the bible was edited , is that infact true? U believe Jesus wasnt alive...are u sure u aint lying to urself?
Elijah Kuria
Dave
 I repeat again Dave , Elijah is to be judged by God , not u , not me , and there is no moral standard above God , if God wills some people to die , there must be a murderer . And its not u to judge , live a life of fulfillment irregardless of what…
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Dave
Elijah Kuria
 on the contrary.... I believe in Jesus was alive. They are many scripture support that. Even Jesus was not a rich leader. But so many people respect him that time.
Elijah Kuria
Dave
 Exactly , infact Jesus was so just and accordinf to script he was such a man of integrity , i wonder what people had against him , if anything, The man lived the perfect life , we should emulate him
Dave
Elijah Kuria
 it's historical book , old testament. Compiled by the farish and saduki. Including all old testament books. No more and no less... Might be solid, might be edited. I fell nothing spiritual came out from old testament, except the story of A…
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Elijah Kuria
Dave
 let me make it really simple for u , the attrocities in the bible .The deaths are not for u to Judge God whether he was right or wrong , no one.has such power to question Gods actions . Think about this , if there was ever a mighty being , but he …
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Elijah Kuria
Dave
 U pick and choose Dave , thats ur problem . Thats being spoilt , u want things to go ur way , u want God to alwayd be good , dont kill the false prophets , the blasphemers , what about them , they killed alotnif Gods people
Dave
Elijah Kuria
 your definitions of God might be difggerent from me. For me , there was nothing sucha infinite God. That's why we have a slight debate in this conversation
Elijah Kuria
Dave
 I dont define God , his nature does , its not an opinion
Elijah Kuria
Dave
 i respect if you dont believe in God but why then judge his actions if you dont believe in him?
Elijah Kuria
Let me ask you , simply if infact the bible were true and Jesus purpose was as it is said , would you be a believer??
Dave
Elijah Kuria
 its still your opinion. Not 100 millions other people....😀
Dave
Elijah Kuria
 I am a believer. From a different reason. Tell me , do you pray lords prayer?
Elijah Kuria
Dave
 it doesnt matter what other people believe , u dont have to stand in the masses . The fact of the matter is there is a being who created all this , and its not a big bang , matter cannot magically become self aware .
Elijah Kuria
Dave
 I do , from time to time am not a perfect believer , infact i dont go to church , because christianity today is so corrupt , its going against what Jesus taught . I believe in Christ and i read the book and follow other people who act christ-lik…
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Dave
Elijah Kuria
 I don't believe in big bang....😀 Even now scientist dig on string theory... Multi universe. Multi realm, multi Gods...
Elijah Kuria
Dave
 Am confused now dave , what do u believe in , are u agnostic?
Dave
Elijah Kuria
 Exactly.... Religion is corrupted. I am a chatolic, Inknow how corrupt the pope right now. We have long discussion... Why dont you just private massage me?
Dave
Elijah Kuria
 agnostic more precise. I am not a text book.
Elijah Kuria
Dave
 i agree wth u , Religion is the reason why we are worlds apart right now. But look at it like this , Christ did not start any religion , The roman catholic did . Christ wants a relationship wth u , not a mass , so acknowledge that fact but dont le…
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Elijah Kuria
Dave
 Its written in ur essence Dave , some people have never read the book and will never but God will still save them , be a good human , live a Christ like life ...the book is only for guidance , at the end of the day , heaven will not have bibles , …
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Dave
Elijah Kuria
 amen brother....
Margus Meigo
Dave
 if you not understand why the prophets did killings and who did right way who wrong way,
and what is needed to be done on what times..
then you have missed the main point of bibile, …
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OS Precious
Bible, biology notes and life is just looks wrong tbh

Margus Meigo
OS Precious
 people who have not understand why bible is god and essential, should not run their ideas too much, they hurt them self like this
Elijah Kuria
Its not just homosexuality , its all sexual sin that is condemned , incest , fornication , as far as God is concerened , 90% of us are sinners , not only hommosexuals will be judged . bitter truth
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Margus Meigo
Elijah Kuria
 true, there is many sins,
90% is optimistic outlook
Margus Meigo
You have great name, : )
Frankie Panaia
Read slowly AGAINST NATURE
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Linda MacLennan
Frankie Panaia
 there are at least 150 birds and mammals that practice homosexuality so it is certainly natural.
10 animal species that show how being gay is natural | DW | 02.08.2017
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10 animal species that show how being gay is natural | DW | 02.08.2017
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Dario Bezzina
Read slowly FACEBOOK IS AGAINST NATURE TOO
get off it please!
Frankie Panaia
Dario Bezzina
 you should know better pazan - disgrazia!
Dario Bezzina
I’m not your fucking Paesan’.
Learn some Italian before you try to insult me 😉
Frankie Panaia
Dario Bezzina
 frocio - is that better pazan?
Dario Bezzina
Vaffanculo, is that better?
Margus Meigo
Linda MacLennan
 NO: "there are at least 150 birds and mammals that practice homosexuality so it is certainly natural."
these fake propaganda that people sick in head interpret like this,
does not make it a "gay" …
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Linda MacLennan
Margus Meigo
 nonsense. That's just spouting homo sapiens arrogance. Many mammals are somewhat sentient like the great apes, dolphins and elephants
Margus Meigo
Linda MacLennan
 now You just make up stuff,
we have no idea why and what they do,
and nature is nature, math is math, …
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Linda MacLennan
Margus Meigo
 first of all, homo sapien sapiens is a great ape and there are sufficient studies to gauge the intellect of various spieces of other animals.
Margus Meigo
Linda MacLennan
 what you mean " somewhat sentient" ?
You see any species organizing hords of homos and have special homo parts of their culture ? …
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Linda MacLennan
Margus Meigo
 the recently deceased gorilla could carry on a conversation in sign language. Chimps and bonobos make and use tools and Konrad Lorenz documented homosexual pairs of grey flag geese as flock leaders.
Margus Meigo
Linda MacLennan
 its also common fallacy for monkeybrains to assume , that everyone who walks on 2 feet are "homo sapience's"
Linda MacLennan
Margus Meigo
 that is a matter of specific DNA although there are reprobates who have devolved back before hominids evolved
Margus Meigo
Linda MacLennan
 my cant can understand human language and telepathically communicate if people are just taking enough mushrooms or are naturally spiritually open,
and not just, same way can commute with bugs, …
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Margus Meigo
just animals, who are more advanced in god's eye for natural point of view as they ANIMATE reality,
directly, human man have become a LIFE to be a nature part, they have to evolve and find a soul connection to not be a robot, animals mostly naturally …
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Linda MacLennan
Margus Meigo
 guess your mushroom brain is working well
Lynn McCaghren
Getting into this discussion is like walking into a circle of wolves and hyenas. Both sides snarling and biting for the most part. I'm going to be very truthful, not to sway one way or the other. Yes this is a very sensitive and delicate topic IMO. …
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Mmaduka Ben-Hur
Lynn McCaghren
 poignant!! You nailed it all.
Andrew Sandilands
Lynn McCaghren
 I’m not having a go, but it’s a common slur on homosexuals that their intimacy is purely about pleasure because they cant create an embryo. This is then used to suggest they are intrinsically hedonistic. I think that is debatable. Do het…
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Lynn McCaghren
I have already listed reasons why that could be so. I don't judge any because I am not them or of them. God said to love all. God is the judge of all of us.
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Lynn McCaghren
" God did not tell us to turn away from others because they are different, to only stay away from the evil. "
Yes, this is what we talking about, …
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Margus Meigo
so we can be better and good, for nature and world with out spreading multi dimensional wicked ideology viruses that can end up as a infiltration tool to ANY organization,
CIA learn it hard way
Serge Gostoli-Georges
Administraator
///" help others to turn away from a evil"
Who do you think is in need of hell to turn away from evil ?…
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Stahu Niccals
not at all, it's just bitching of some old priests from 2000 years ago that still ruins people's entire lifes
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Phil Tutt
To clarify, the bible does not teach that same sex attraction (homosexuality) is wrong, but rather homosexual acts. But back to your question, it all comes down to the definition of "wrong". Who or what defines what is wrong or right? One could argu…
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Dejienna Jonathan
Yes, in the natural way of life, you have been left out.
In the survival of the fittest or the random…
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Cynthia Sun
Dejienna Jonathan
 To some degree yes. There is homosexuality in nature so it's natural, but in our case, there's really no need to repopulate. The more we repopulate actually decrease the chances of survival for everyone else as it'll lead to increased…
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Dejienna Jonathan
Cynthia Sun
 “there is really no need to repopulate”...really?
Who told you that?…
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Suzane Watkinson
Administraator
Dejienna Jonathan
 There are other ways to contribute to the advancement of humans besides having children
Those of us who cannot have children can help raise and care for others children
Dejienna Jonathan
Suzane Watkinson
 I totally agree, good deed, very positive to do when you have decided not to have children.
I am pro-abortionist ( while it is the parents decision, the women should have the right/choice to keep or abort their pregnancy)…
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Cynthia Sun
Dejienna Jonathan
 Stating reproduction for humans isn't about natural selection anymore. Just socioeconomic standing. As for mental fortitude, you have idiots who live well for the rest of their life simply because they're wealthy so it still goes down…
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Dejienna Jonathan
Cynthia Sun
 you can call it whatever you want, just like I can call it whatever I want.
Why can’t both be right?
You have started some factors, and I gave you other factor that can make one make better decision.…
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Mike Red
It doesn't promote human population growth. That's all that I can think of....
And we could probably do with a little less population growth.
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Dario Bezzina
Pretty much everything else than vaginal intercourse between two fertile people does not promote human population growth. 😂
NATURE.COM
Gay genes boost fertility
Gay genes boost fertility
Mike Red
Good point.
I vaguely remember reading this some years ago. Very interesting stuff 👍
Margus Meigo
Jolene Ulrich Garrettson
 pederasty supporters & LGBD i remember reading, as whole ideology do not support the "ideology of genes" or race,
as communists and Leninist demand in these new-age-roman-empire-s days.
Jolene Ulrich Garrettson
Margus Meigo
 Did you read the article?
Jacob Riggs
What's wrong with homosexuality? Are there anything beyond "it hurts my gods feelings" reasons?
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Geoff Green
Jacob Riggs
 to give any to the practice of homosexuality is to also say it's ok to spread the diseases that are being spread . And they are shocking. Human natural is man and woman. You are there because of. Anyway I hope you read this very shocking re…
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Flesh-eating bug strikes San Francisco's gay community
INDEPENDENT.CO.UK
Flesh-eating bug strikes San Francisco's gay community
Flesh-eating bug strikes San Francisco's gay community
Jacob Riggs
Geoff Green
 That's the equivalent of saying "having sex in general causes more diseases than abstinence, so sex is bad". Many people get into car crashes, yet driving is still a normal way to get around.
This is a matter of safe sex vs unprotected sex…
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Dario Bezzina
So you mean there are absolutely NO diseases when performing ‘heterosexual sex’?
Serge Gostoli-Georges
Administraator
I've been having both gay and straight sex since I was 18 still no disease...
The only think that is shocking is that you can't tell the difference between the issue of safe sex vs sex.
Rocky Graciano
No. I mean "right & wrong" are subjective, but there is "not" anything objectively wrong or dangerous about homosexuality that can be scientifically demonstrated.
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Flesh-eating bug strikes San Francisco's gay community
INDEPENDENT.CO.UK
Flesh-eating bug strikes San Francisco's gay community
Flesh-eating bug strikes San Francisco's gay community
Trevor Brown
Moderaator
Geoff Green
 You cherry pick like a boss.
Rocky Graciano
You have an old ass article full of blah-blah and no subsources, let alone science sources, to back the claims
Geoff
?…
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Geoff Green
Rocky Graciano
 The new article is even more shocking. You can look that up.
Geoff Green
Rocky Graciano
 You seem to have a cock up your arse. Not good.
Serge Gostoli-Georges
Administraator
Rule 4. Insults, personal attacks, suggestions or implying a person has mental health issues will be not tolerated. You can criticise and attack ideas, religions, Gods and historical figures, but not members of this group. …
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Bonface Kaseyama
The anus wasn’t designed for sexual activities.... it’s for excretion ..... you can’t put a dick in every hole you see on the human body ,,,,the nose is for breathing ,,,, mouth is for eating .... etc
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Dario Bezzina
So you’ve never received a blow job then?
Jeromie Gentry
Bonface Kaseyama
 As if you don't pee out of your penis...
Bonface Kaseyama
Dario Bezzina
 I like the p***sy idont waste time with that thing..... I know where to put the d****..... 😄😄😄😄
Bonface Kaseyama
Jeromie Gentry
 peeing is not sexual activity.... homosexual is sexual activity..... anyway Ido enjoy the p*****y ....the rest is just none of my business
Suzane Watkinson
Administraator
Bonface Kaseyama
 exactly, none of your business.
Bonface Kaseyama
Suzane Watkinson
 exactly,,, why shld Insert my d**** into the poop 💩 outlet????? You must have a lot of disinfectants and sanitizers to have the guts to do that.... it takes me almost 60 seconds spraying toilet spray every time I use the toilet to get…
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Mila Barroso
Bonface Kaseyama
 if the mouth is for eating, then why do we engage in fallatio??
Dario Bezzina
As I see it you have …
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Bonface Kaseyama
Mila Barroso
 agood quastion?? The same question shld be if the anus is for excretion why do we put in a d**** there?????are we that disparate??? The mouth can do foul play it’s clean and it’s an intake for clean stuff....( my own opinion) the anus …
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Bonface Kaseyama
Dario Bezzina
 you mean foul play I guess 😄😄😄....it’s a clean game...... Ido play with her with my finger while she is playing with me........ I’m sure they can put their finger in the anus also and enjoy the peanut butter down there 👇 mmmm it’s yamm…
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Dario Bezzina
So I see that as a yes. …
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Bonface Kaseyama
Dario Bezzina
 isaid foul play...... after foul play the end game is Putting my d**** into the p ***** and enjoy,,, I really do ........trust me it’s so nice to do it the nature way...... once you test the p****y you will never go back
Dario Bezzina
I think you’re lying.
It think you’ve had your dick sucked, but you realise that nullifies your argument for only putting your dick into vaginas.
Margus Meigo
Strength in what is needed!
Bonface Kaseyama
 it was Too intelligent for this crew,
But yes, every child and old people who has correct mind understands that perfectly easy. …
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Daniel Van Koughnett
Administraator
Bonface Kaseyama
 Bonface Kaseyama Rule 5. No hate speech. We're using the Facebook definition, which is https://www.facebook.com/communitystandards/hate_speech
Sâint Charles Greatness Shammah
Yes it's madness and demonic I say it's wrong so it's wrong 😂🤓

Suzane Watkinson
Administraator
Sâint Charles Greatness Shammah
 and who put you in charge?
Joesnizar Rahman
homosexuality... maybe just because their brains confuse to usability of their pen*s... 😄
Fred Hutchings
No. Nor does the Bible condemn it. Jesus never says anything about homosexuality.
Sandy Buchanan
No, it occurs in the animal world,and humans are animals. Do religious people also think it’s wrong when monkeys and dolphins are homosexual I wonder?
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Steve Saur
I mean if everyone was before our current scientific understanding it would have threatened the continuation of our species. I also don't think it should be instantly forced by adults if suspected, however I don't think it should be forced away either…
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May be an image of üks või mitu inimest ja Tekst, mis ütleb 'god after he put the male g spot up his outt and then made it a sin to be gay Nice one God'
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Dario Bezzina
Pardon a potentially preconceived comment, and the by all means this is not meant to be racist, but I see that most of the homophobic comments are coming from people that seem to live or come from the African continent.
Especially compared to other su…
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Giovanna L. Sforza
Of course not. Being gay is just as natural as being straight.
A couple of questions for straight people who have a problem with gay people who use these questions, flipped, to justify being straight:…
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Niel Santillan
Health, it's an informal sex when they mate
Murage Gathiomi
was jesus not gay ?
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Jeremy Preston
Why do we think it matters what anyone else thinks about someone else's sexual orientation? Deny it if you will, but behind closed doors. We are ALL little freaks under the sheets in our own Individual Ways.
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Margus Meigo
No disrespect but the list of reasons is so serious, seriously long and gross that is not even appropriate to share in so unregulated platforms as this social media here, besides,
Would You care to share
for now what you already have found, …
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William Freeman
it has been a taboo for tens of thousands of years
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Tobey Krog
I do not think it is okay because of both the Bible and my personal opinion. However, I don’t really care, go ahead if you want to practice it... I know that it is a sin and it condemns you to hell... however, it gets wrong when everyone tries to push …
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Keith Mitchell
Nope, there is no other reason for homosexuality being wrong outside of what the Bible says despite the fact some of God's most chosen people in the Bible were in fact themselves homosexuals.
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Abel Lewis
It's not natural.
By nature, men and women are suppose to be married. …
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Islam Adam
Homosexuality is wrong in all aspects.
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Suzane Watkinson
Administraator
I am going to close comments til we get this sorted out.
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